The online apologetics and discernment work Apprising Ministries continues to keep you updated on Warrengate since Dr. John Piper suffered a lapse in judgment by inviting Purpose Driven Pope Rick Warren to be a keynote speaker at the Desiring God Conference 2010. Frank Turk’s snark aside, not everyone gets it.

In his Coming Soon – The John Piper And Rick Warren Controversy Cameron Buettel, a name familiar to AM, weighs in:

When John Piper invited Rick Warren to be a keynote speaker at the 2010 Desiring God Conference, we could feel the explosion in the blogosphere from as far away as Denmark… I would ask that we would operate out of zeal for avoiding bringing reproach on Christ’s Name, out of zeal for the furtherance of the Gospel, and out of love for John Piper’s ministry which has abundantly blessed many of us.

What I would ask is that you watch the video below and privately express your concerns to Dr Piper by sending your e-mails to mail@desiringGod.org… (Online source)

You can see the video and read the rest of what Buettel says right here. For me, in addition to Warren’s sinful and double-minded ecumenicsm, my concern with chameleon-like Rick Warren is what pastor Bob DeWaay calls Warren’s “file cabinet orthodoxy.” By this DeWaay means:

You stick it in a file cabinet, and someone questions you about it, you pull it and show [it to] them. Then you put it back in there; but it really doesn’t influence what you do, how you write, how you preach, how you speak. And it’s not very useful orthodoxy. [1]

No doubt Rick Warren’s welcome to his views; but that’s the heart of the matter, what are they? For example, I’m a former Roman Catholic whom God saved by His grace alone; through faith alone; in the finished work of Christ alone on the Cross, and through nothing I have done brought me into the glorious freedom of the sons of God.

As the Lord would will, I would later go on to become an ordained Southern Baptist minister, as is Rick Warren. So Warren’s stance on the apostate Church of Rome, which condemned the very Gospel of Jesus Christ itself in its answer to the Reformers at the RCC Council of Trent, has very personal meaning to me.

Imagine my confusion, as I touched on before in Rick Warren Is Whatever He Needs To Be, when I read in a 2004 interview of Rick Warren by Modern Reformation:

Theologically, I am a monergist and firmly hold to the five solas of the Reformation. (Online source)

Yet a year later I read from a 2005 report on Rick Warren by Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

“Now I don’t agree with everything in everybody’s denomination, including my own. I don’t agree with everything that Catholics do or Pentecostals do, but what binds us together is so much stronger than what divides us,” he said. “I really do feel that these people are brothers and sisters in God’s family. I am looking to build bridges with the Orthodox Church, looking to build bridges with the Catholic Church,….” (Online source, emphasis mine)

And now Dr. John Piper tells me of Rick Warren:

Well I put my cards totally on the table here, um I have invited Rick Warren to come to the Desiring God National Conference this fall. And he’s coming. Now I will get a lot of criticism for this from my Reformed brothers, because…not because Rick Warren is openly non calvinistic or non reformed.

I do think he’s deeply theological. He’s a brilliant man. He wouldn’t have the church he does or the Peace Plan, or all the influence he does… (as cited Online source)

But since when has the view that the Roman Catholic Church is “in God’s family” ever been consistent with Reformation theology; its man-made dogma repudiates each of the five solas of the Reformation? And so I find myself asking again: Which Rick Warren am I supposed to believe?

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Endnotes:

1. http://www.crosstalkamerica.com/shows/2010/04/john_piper_invites_rick_warren.php, accessed 4/13/10.

See also:

DR. MICHAEL HORTON ON THE CHAMELEON-LIKE RICK WARREN

THE INADEQUATE GOSPEL OF RICK WARREN

REFUTING RICK WARREN

SBC PROTESTANT PASTOR RICK WARREN DOUBLE-MINDED ON THE REFORMATION AND ROMAN CATHOLICISM

DR. ROD ROSENBLADT CALLS RICK WARREN’S MAN-CENTERED THEOLOGY “ROMAN CATHOLIC”

HAS THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH REALLY CHANGED?

WHAT DOES THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACH ABOUT THE DOCTRINE OF JUSTIFICATION?

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Comments
  1. David says:

    Thanks for your comments. However, Warren has been wrong Biblically on most points for years and years! Following Schuller , Hybels, et al down a super-errant path. Just shows
    the abnormality prevalent in the SBC, which Mohler, Devers, etc are a part of. (Maybe the Founders should separate??). Plus even MacArthur & Begg have spoken at Laurie’s mega-church, which I would be somewhat more comfortable with Piper speaking Biblical truth at Saddleback to expose the masses and give the general Gospel Call? (Maybe that is what Piper is angling for, which I doubt happens, but ya never know!)

    I do not know Piper’s motivation; 1. expose him to the Doctrines of Grace with hundreds of supporters. 2. critique his chameleon message that Warren will give. 3. others, ad infinitum!

    As to Piper, though he written many strong Biblical books/messages, he has several chinks in the armor as we all do. First he focused on “Christain Hedonism” , a one trick pony until Dr. Peter Masters of Metropolitian Tabernacle wrote a strong critique in a 2002 issue ot Sword & Trowel. Since then thankfully, Piper has diversified. Second, he is a mild to moderate non-cessasionist; there was a piece on his website where he claims to audibily talk with God, sort of like Jack Hayford? And he feels gibberish tongues, word of the Lord, and other hyper-emotional junk can be authentic for today, constanting repeating ACTs (and Corinth), even without any true Apostolic persons around. Third, he tried to sway his church to not require “believer’s baptism” if the person wanting to join had been baptized elsewhere, the church leadership shot that down for down. Fourth, he is on the moderately ecumenical Lausanne Conference with some others that should not be that hold a heretical “wider mercy viewpoint”. Fifth, in his desire to not separate with other Christians he goes overboard on inclusive mindset and actions based on 1-4. Sixth, I have listened to him live about 3 times and on DVD, and while I admire his enthusiam and fever, I find his obtusive flow of thought, and gestures hard to follow. Thus, I read the written version to understand his train of thought and evaluate it Biblically! Just my few cents worth.

    David Burkhardt

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