Luke 23:39-43 (NASB)
39 One of the criminals who were hanged there was hurling abuse at Him, saying, “Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us!”
40 But the other answered, and rebuking him said, “Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation?
41 “And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.”
42 And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!”
43 And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”

What sacrament could this thief do as he was nailed to a cross?  Why did Jesus tell this thief, “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise“? If the Roman Catholic Church is correct then Jesus’s reply should have been something like this,” Truly I tell you, because you did not perform any of the sacred sacraments, you must be purged for your sins in purgatory before you can be with me in Paradise.

By faith this thief repented, believed, and confessed Christ as Lord.

Ephesians 2:1-10 (NASB)
1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins,
2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.
3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.
4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,
5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),
6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast
10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

  1. MJ says:

    Yeah, The Catholic Church is the Church everyone loves to hate. It’s the Devil’s doing really.
    I, a practicing Catholic am used to that. The trouble is, is that you and I belong to the same church. The Catholic Church finds 7 Sacraments initiated by Christ.
    During evrey Holy Week of every Lenten experience that Catholics go thru, we hear these words from our Lord as He was Crucified.
    Amazing to me, as I almost tear up because of God’s bottomless Mercy that many of us do not deserve.
    In this event , Dismus, the repentant criminal as you say, accepted Jesus as his Lord and asked for that mercy. As you know, Crucifixion is one of the most brutal and painful of all deaths. No purgatory was needed as Dismus was undergoing his in repentance for his sinful life.
    Most of us do not get that chance, so the Catholic Church with all it’s prayers to the saints for their prayers(much the same as when we ask others to pray for us here on earth), sacraments, sacramentals, devotionals, etc. does it’s best to inspire, and lead it’s faithful to Heaven. Pretty simple really. Much of the Catholic Church’s miracles from prayers to the Saints and miracles of the Eucharist etc. have been recorded and documented for the past 2000 years. Amazing to me why the Church’s history is scoffed at.
    Ya know, before the Reformation there was only one Church. The word for the original Church has been coined “Catholic”, a term that simply means “universal”
    God Love Ya,

  2. re-inventing says:

    ‘No purgatory was needed as Dismus was undergoing his in repentance for his sinful life.’

    The atonement of Christ was obviously not sufficient for ‘Dismus’.

    That’s the bottom line.
    The atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ is sufficient or it’s not.

    All of Roman Catholic teaching radiates from the blindness to the sufficiency of the the atonement and it’s results.

  3. MJ says:

    My Friend, If I looked at the Catholic Church as you do, I wouldn’t want to be Catholic either. I submit, you really are not well informed. Look….Christ’s redemptive suffering saves us all from hell for all eternity and gives us eternal life with Him. Eternal LIFE OVER eternal damnation. That is the gift offered to everyone no matter their sinfull lifestyle, but it has to be accepted by the givEE, so to speak. Through forgiveness and pennance we recieve that gift. One cannot continue to run down their trail of disobedience, doing evil, disregarding Jesus’ gift of redemption, and still make it to heaven. Unfortunately God will not MAKE anyone take heaven if they clearly don’t want or care about it. After all, what did Jesus come for in the first place? Out of pure Love He came to make a way for us to get there with Him and to tell us how to avoid what would NOT get us there.
    When you look at the crucifix you are looking at your own autobiography. We all suffer and die because of Our Master’s lead. But we only die to this existence and continue to live with Him. Suffering is then part of life. You will go thru it and so will I.
    I know many Protestants have a problem with the word “Purgatory” But that is a latin word meaning “a place for purging”. In scripture there are countless mentions of being purged from sin before and after death. If you would like a list I can supply you with one. Here’s a few I remember, Matt. 5: 25,26, Matt. 18:34,35, Luke 12: 58,59, 2nd Macc. 12: 43,45, and Wis. 3:1-7. The first 2 ofcourse are in Jesus’ words from the synoptic Gospels. However there are probably 30 plus referrences to suffering/pennance and purgatory in scripture alone. Let me know if you need anymore.
    Next thing is, I don’t think you are quite sure of what a Sacrament is. I can help you with that if you’d like.
    Peace of Christ,

  4. re-inventing says:

    hi, do you think it’s possible to negate a belief with another?

  5. MJ says:

    And do you believe it is possible to look at Our omniscient Lord with blinders on?

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