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I would like the give a speacial thanks to Ken Silva, Stan, and all who have supported In the Hedge over the past couple of years. When I left the seeker-sensitive church, I was a mess to say the least. I started this blog as a way to expose Perry Noble. It grew to more than just dealing with selfish hirelings like Noble, to many other directions. I am truly humbled by the number of visits I receive each day; I thank each and every one of you for your support.

The time has come for me to step away from blogging for a few reasons. I do not have time to put my best effort into blogging at the moment. I know many of you have noticed how my personal writtings have slowed down a lot over the past several months.  I have other pressing issues that I want to pursue further which will hinder my ability to research and write blogs dealing with the subjects that I want to discuss. Our coummunities are in dire need of direction and I want to focus on my immediate surroundings instead of general blogging. Our society is taking a downward spirit into a nanny state in every aspect of our culture.

False teachers like Perry Noble and his business called $$$$$New$pring Church$$$$$ will continue to prosper because too many Christians are either too lazy to study the Word or they do not care. What we must do is reach out to our local surroundings and inform people about the problems we face today. For me, this goes far beyond just dealing with the church, because I see the decay of our society from a social perspective. If we do not get ahold of the downward spiral into Marxism, then it will not matter if we teach the true Gospel or the seeker-sensitive imatation because we all will be in the same frying pan under an oppressive government.

Again, I thank each of you with all my heart for the bonds that have been made because of this blog. I will keep the comment section open with moderation to prevent spam and drive by seeker-sensitive/foaming at the mouth KJV only rage bots. In the future, I may start blogging In the Hedge again, but right now I just do not have the will or the time to continue. I can still be reached via e-mail but it may take a while for me to respond. This was not an easy decision to make and it was one that I have pondered for months. It’s just time for me to move on and see what the future holds.

In Christ,

David J

Psalm 119:125

I am your servant; give me discernment that I may understand your statutes.

Proverbs 15:14

The discerning heart seeks knowledge, but the mouth of a fool feeds on folly.

Philippians 1:9-11

And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in real knowledge and all discernment, so that you may approve the things that are excellent, in order to be sincere and blameless until the day of Christ; having been filled with the fruit of righteousness which comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.

Please consider Locks of Love

Posted: February 15, 2012 in about me
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I have been advocating Locks of Love for many years now. I generally grow my hair for 2 to 4 years and donate it. It’s a good cause that helps children. If you are considering cutting your hair or you want to grow your hair to help, please visit Locks of Love.

D.A. Waite(top), David Cloud, Peter Ruckman, David Fuller, and Benjamin Wilkinson

Over the next few weeks(when I get the time), I’m going to start discussing some King James only issues and give you my perspective about this belief from the eyes of a former KJVOist. Due to events outside of my control, my blogging has been and will be slow over the next few months. I figured this might be a good time to discuss KJVOism a little.

I want to thank everyone who reads my blog. I greatly appreciate all of you.

Matthew 7:2-5 (New American Standard Bible)

2“For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.

3“Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?

4“Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye?

5“You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.

So many times over the past year, I’ve been reminded of Matthew 7:2-4 by various people. I fully understand that we should be cautious with our judgment, but many times those using this passage use it to defend preachers in error. The context of Matthew 7:2-4 is seen in Matthew 7:5. We are advised to correct our own problems first so that we will be able to help our fellow man. I find it interesting in verse 5, the “first take the log out of your own eye” passage actually deals more with the one passing judgment; the accuser has a bigger and more blinding problem than the accused if we fail to rid ourselves of our own errors and sins! If we refuse to address our own problems prior to passing judgment on another, we are called  hypocrites. So in context, in order to be able to admonish and advise our brothers/sisters (2 Thessalonians 3:14-16, 1 Thessalonians 5:11-15), we must practice self criticism first (1 John 1:8-10, 1 John 2:1-3).

Far too often, Matthew 7:2-4 is used to defend actions that do not warrant defending. Using only verses 2-4, makes it seem that no one can criticize the actions done by Christians and leaders of the church. What is disturbing is how the defenders overlook verse 5, “You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye,” which gives us liberty to correct those in error and warn the brethren.

I have observed the following when many people use the “do not judge” defense to defend the indefensible:

  • They never quote Matthew 7:5.
  • Generally Matthew 7:2-4 is used to defend open sin and open errors.(2 Timothy 3:1-5, 2 Timothy 4:3-4)
  • Those using Matthew 7:2-4 use it to discourage Biblical discernment (Acts 17:11, 2 Timothy 2:15)
  • Many times those using Matthew 7:2-4 are guilty of passing the same judgment about which they are complaining.

A deeper problem addressed in verse 5 is pride.

Proverbs 11:2 (New American Standard Bible)

2When pride comes, then comes dishonor,
But with the humble is wisdom.

A prideful person does not like correction, and they do not like to admit they are wrong. Pride is a deadly cancer that will destroy us quickly. It will transform us into judgmental hypocrites because we are far too concerned with other people’s errors and sins rather than our own.

It is a severe injustice to quote Matthew 7:2-4 and omit verse 5 which tells us we must cleanse our own heart of sin before judging another person’s sin. Verse 5 is a thorn in the side of those with a prideful and legalistic mindset.

Proverbs 12:1 (New International Version)

1 Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,
but he who hates correction is stupid.

Being able to truly practice discernment starts within ourselves. In order to truly help other people, we must first be able to accept help from others. If we are unwilling to accept criticism, then how can we be in a position to judge? If we are not humble enough to listen to our critics – family, friends, church members, and people in general – then how can we expect people to listen to us?

From 2008 to 2009, I personally went through a lot of self criticism and rebellion. It was hard for me to see through the veil that covered my eyes during those years. I was always quick to defend that which was close to my heart even when it was wrong. What I learned the hard way is that pride will tear you down to a point to where you are stupid (See Proverbs 12:1). I too was guilty of only applying Matthew 7:2-4 to critics of the purpose-driven movement in order to defend what I thought was right.

As I was reorganizing my blog’s categories, I could not help but notice how anger and painful scars influenced my writings greatly. I could have worded my statements nicer without some of the name-calling and overly blunt comments. I was tempted to remove some of my posts, not because I was wrong in what I said, but because of how I worded some of my concerns with certain issues. I decided to leave everything intact because I view it as a growing experience and a reminder of how I need to control my mouth and temper. I vowed to put more thought into my blogs and to reflect more of a Christian attitude when I critique a pastor, church, movement, etc… To anyone I have offended with my mouth in the past, I apologize publicly for my past actions.

To wrap all this up, being able to discern and judge starts within our own lives. Without becoming totally submissive to the Holy Spirit and the Word of God, we cannot help other people. We must evaluate our actions, words, and our walk with Jesus Christ before we set out to advise, warn, and judge other people’s beliefs and deeds. Discernment starts within ourselves when we ask God to show us our own faults and errors.

I fully understand that there are people who criticize and judge just to be judging. I fully agree that we should not get bogged down by people whose sole purpose is just to complain without offering any real solutions (Titus 3:8-10). If we take Matthew 7:2-5 at face value, then we will be equipped not only to cleanse our own faults, but we will be able to offer real solutions to those people with whom we disagree.

When dealing with people judging us we must:

  1. Discern the foundation of the criticism.
  2. Not be overtaken by pride and become offended that someone would dare speak up against our beliefs, deeds, and teachings.
  3. Be ready to back up our beliefs with the Holy Scriptures in context.
  4. Be kind and respectful to all of our critics by treating them in a manner that if God-honoring.

I’m going to take a few days to make my blog more user friendly. I doubt I’ll be posting anything new before I finish redoing the categories.

I would like to thank everyone who visits and promotes my blog.

In Christ,

David J

Ken Silva is doing a great job with his discernment ministry. This is a very important work that must be done in order to protect the church from false teachings and heretics. This is a line of work that is not popular and under appreciated by many in the Christian faith. I would like to ask my readers to consider helping Mr. Silva by visiting YOUR ASSISTANCE IS APPRECIATED and making a donation.

Perry Noble appeals to the Scoreboard

I get asked this question in various forms a lot by NewSpring Church members. I pondered answering this question via my blog for several months now. I’ve tried to focus on discussing a wide range of subjects facing the church today. I do not follow much of anything that goes on at NewSpring Church anymore because I feel several discernment blogs have documented some of the major problems taught by Perry Noble. Because NewSpring Church is in my community, I occasionally visit NewSpring’s blogs etc.. just to see what is going on and comment about it.

Before I answer the question, “So when did you stop worshiping Jesus and start attacking God’s work at NewSpring?” I want to briefly review some problems I have with Perry Noble’s teachings.

One of my main concerns with Perry Noble and NewSpring Church can be seen by simply following Perry Noble and his staff on Twitter. These people are all about following Noble’s vision without question. They parrot his every move to the point that they blindly follow him like a little messiah. Since Noble spoke at Rick Warren’s church during Radicalis, you can see all the tweets from NewSpring pastors and staffers @Rickwarren all of a sudden. (Refer to the pictures at the bottom.) This is a classic example of one of my main concerns with NewSpring Church. All that matters is Perry Noble’s vision and that what Perry Noble says is true. When people like me point out the dangers from following Rick Warren or Rob Bell, many NewSpringers simply ignore the warnings in favor of the blessings Noble puts upon these men. Many NewSpring pastors like Brad Cooper, Pudge Huckaby, Howard Frist, etc… all tweet and blog about following Jesus Christ and how important it is worship Him. My question is are you really following Jesus or Perry Noble? Now, I know that question might seem unfair and maybe even unjust, but in light of what is being done at NewSpring Church I think it’s a question that must be asked. If you follow Perry Noble on Twitter, you will see what I described in this paragraph because many just blindly follow Noble without ever questioning his judgment.

I do not like the way Perry Noble paints those of us who openly disagree with him as servants of Satan. Many times Perry Noble puts us on the opposite side of Christ just because we speak out against what he is doing. (See Why Do People Criticize? for a good example of Noble’s rants against critics.) Perry Noble is so obsessed with critics that it consumes his blogs/sermons at times, but then he tells his people to ignore critics. He speaks of critics as hateful, not loving, enemies, and out only to harm the church. His portrayal of people who disagree with him is to paint them as cold and unloving people who are pharisees only concerned with their self-serving hypocrisy. When Perry Noble is dealing with heretics like T.D. Jakes and Joel Osteen, Noble takes a very different approach with these false teachers. Noble goes out of his way to tell us that God is blessing T.D Jakes and Joel Osteen. Why does he defend the false teachers who vomit heresies into the church while painting those of use who stand by the orthodox doctrines of the faith as unloving and/or non-Christian?

The reasons I left NewSpring Church:

  • Perry Noble was not approachable even when I tried to follow the chain of command via Campus Pastor first.
  • Perry Noble’s teachings and his insights are put above the Word of God by NewSpring Church’s leadership team.
  • Perry Noble has created an atmosphere where he cannot be questioned. To question Noble is to bring down the wrath of NewSpring upon you.

When I questioned some of Noble’s teachings, I witnessed the transformation of a NewSpring Church from one that is open and welcoming to one that is hard, cold, and unfriendly. I was told to accept Perry Noble’s vision or leave. My Scriptures did not matter, and my sincere requests to speak with Noble were ignored. All that mattered to the staff was following Perry Noble’s vision while believing they were serving Jesus by protecting Perry Noble & his church from criticism and my questions. As long as you sell out and follow Noble’s vision you are A-okay, but to step out of line draws immediate attention because you are viewed as a threat.

One of the sour fruits of Perry Noble’s teaching is seen in how Newspring Church deals with critics. Observe the lack of care the church had for James Duncan and his family. I can testify from personal experience that many of my NewSpring friends who are on the staff/volunteers no longer talk to my wife or me. The ones that do want to do so in private because they fear some at NewSpring might see their post and report back to HQ. I see the hurt in my wife’s eyes many times when she sends her NewSpring friends messages only to get ignored because I spoke out against Perry Noble’s vision. I recently had a NewSpring staff member remove his/herself from my Facebook friends list because he/she did not want other NewSpring staffers to know he/she was my friend. When I questioned him/her about this I was told, “We can talk in private but not in public.” What a shame that a church culture would make people feel this way! I’ll admit at first all this angered me, but the more I thought about it it my anger became sorrow. What was my crime? My crime was searching the Scriptures and following Acts 17:11 by trying to talk to Perry Noble. My crime was pointing out some errors and hoping that NewSpring Church would conform to the Word of God instead of blindly following some of Perry Nobles’s bad teachings.

So to answer the question that I have been asked several times by some of my NewSpring friends and supporters, “So when did you stop worshiping Jesus and start attacking God’s work at NewSpring?” The answer is, “I never stopped worshiping Jesus. I just started to fully obey His Word by placing it above my desires and my own feelings. I placed the Word of the Lord above the visions of Perry Noble. I realized that in order to truly worship Jesus we must fully obey His Word.” It was hard for me to leave NewSpring Church. I tried many times to discuss my concerns with Perry Noble in private. After being dismissed, ignored, and told that I needed to sell out to NewSpring’s vision I decided it was time to leave.

People who defend Perry Noble need to understand that no matter how many thousands of people say the name “Jesus” at NewSpring Church, no matter how many thousands attend each week, no matter how many people volunteer, no matter how many life changes are professed, no matter how many marriages are restored, no matter how many families are restored, and no matter how many good works are done by Perry Noble it does not pardon the rebellion and errors being taught by Perry Noble. If the Lord Jesus Christ is truly first in our lives, then we will follow Him even when it hurts and when we question His leading. The Lord will never lead us into a place where His Word is belittled and where sin is called righteousness.

My goal is not to tear down NewSpring Church but to uplift the Scriptures by pointing out the dangerous reformation taking place under Perry Noble’s leadership. The Perry Noble reformation leads back to Babel and the way of Cain. We need to follow the true spirit of the Reformation which is sola scriptura by placing the Holy Scriptures above our traditions and desires. My prayer is that God opens their hearts to the truth. I pray that God convicts Perry Noble by the power of the Holy Spirit to lead him in a new direction. As I’ve stated many times in the past, (See Message to my NewSpring Church friends who have stopped talking to me ) my problem is not with the people who attend/volunteer at NewSpring Church. My problem is with Perry Noble and his staff of pastors who poison the Word of God with their love of the world which has consumed them and is skewing their judgment. When we become so relevant that the Word of God is irrelevant, then we have a problem.

What do you think would happen if a NewSpring staff member tweeted a message @perrynoble saying that Rick Warren teaches a false gospel? What if this staffer presented the evidence using Rick Warren’s own words and presented the Scriptures to backup this claim? I challenge you to ponder these questions and ask yourself why so many NewSpring staff members blindly follow Perry Noble. The problems with Rick Warren are easy to spot when they are examined in the light of the Scriptures. Where is the discernment at NewSpring Church?

The dangers of false teaching and twisting the Scriptures

Perry Noble Exegetes the Book of Maps

Perry Noble: “This Sh_t Is Awesome!”

PERRY NOBLE SAYS YOU’RE A JACKASS by Ken Silva

Why I blog and warn people about false teachers, false prophets, and apostasy

When we sin we need to repent instead of making excuses