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We here at DefCon (as well as our brothers and sisters at other sites, such as Ken Silva and Ingrid Schlueter) use the written Word of God as the rule and basis for everything we believe about God and how one is to worship Him. For that, we are constantly accused of being “Pharisees” by those who would lead the Body of Christ away from the clear teachings of Scripture, and into areas which are questionable (at best) and/or heretical (at worst).

Well, here’s my question–what exactly does it mean to be a “Pharisee”? Are we justly accused as Pharisees by the Seeker-Driven™/Purpose-Driven™, “Let’s all just get along in unity” church-goer who does not dare speak for fear that it may offend someone? Or is there a more accurate description of a Pharisee? Let us examine the issue.(source)

Please visit Defending.Contending to read the rest of this well written article that explains from the Bible the characteristics of a Pharisee.

It’s time for me to check in and see what NewSpring  Church Self-help Center is teaching my community this week.

I think this Brad Cooper clip is good example of what goes on at NewSpring Church:

Interesting little pep talk from Brad Cooper. It’s catchy, and he makes some good points that I agree with. I do think that Noble and his staff of preachers make some very good points in their sermons, but it’s what isn’t said that is the problem many times. I would love to be reporting how Perry Noble teaches repentance from sin, instructs his people on holy living, and how he feeds his flock with sound biblical teachings. My problem is not with their music (I like guitars and drums in the worship service; I do, however, have a problem with using non-Christian music like AC\DC, etc. to worship God), the size of the church, or with breaking the sermons down to a level for everyone. The problem I have with these types of NewSpring lectures is they do not practice what they preach. These pep talks generally leave you full of worldly relevant chatter while being almost void of any true scriptural teaching.

Let’s examine some of Brad Cooper’s more colorful moments in his NewSpring ministry:

Brad Cooper’s twisted defense for cussing

My concern with Brad Cooper from NewSpring Church

Brad Cooper’s foul mouth and poor judgment

Do words really matter?

When Brad Cooper used the relevant “hip and cool” acronym BAMF, was he trying or training to live for Christ? After pressure from several people (myself included) in my community and from the internet, Brad Cooper stated BAMF meant Big Audacious Mighty Fortress in a Tweet, but no where on his blog, NewSpring’s web page, or during FUSE did I see any apology for his actions. (If he did apologize I missed it.) He simply justified his actions by altering a filthy acronym instead of simply apologizing for being so irresponsible. How many teens researched this acronym only to discover the filthy meaning of Cooper’s relevant talk? (1 Thessalonians 5:21-22) All one has to do is follow the time line of events concerning Cooper’s BAMF statement to see that outside pressure made him change his tone while in public. I’m glad that he stopped using this filthy acronym, so I’m not complaining about that. I am pointing out that his poor choice of words caused problems.(1 Peter 3:10-12, Romans 16:18-19) In my opinion, the most alarming part of this BAMF controversy was how NewSpring Church handled this mess: total silence from Perry Noble and his leadership team. How hard would it have been to 1.) Make a public statement to the church from the stage since Cooper’s action was in the general public. 2.) Add a statement on the church website correcting Cooper’s actions during Fuse, his tweets, etc. 3.) Apologize to the parents who trusted Brad Cooper to be an example and teach their children about God during FUSE.

2 Timothy 3:1-5 (NASB)
1 But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come.
2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy,
3 unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good,
4 treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
5 holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these.

If these men would submit to the authority of God and preach the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, then our community would see a real change. As it stands now, this false gospel of life change only gives a temporary false hope based upon our works. It is my prayer that Perry Noble and his staff truly repent. I would love to see the pure Gospel pour out of NewSpring Church into my community. I would rather be blogging about how NewSpring Church preaches the whole council of God and teaches true repentance than blogging about the  many errors spewing from the leadership of this church.

Where the life change gospel breaks down

The blunt truth about the gospel and the false god of purpose

People do not need pep talks and services designed as entertaining mirror images of popular culture. People need to hear the Gospel and see the power of God manifest in our lives. When God saved us, He made us new creatures (2 Corinthians 5:17). He gave us a desire to live for Him (Romans 13:13-14, John 15:18-20, 1 John 2:15). This is a life change the world cannot acquire through works, volunteer service, repeating the name “Jesus,” etc. This change is only given by God when the Holy Spirit draws us to repentance. The key to this real change is preaching the pure Gospel and depending on the Holy Spirit to draw sinners to repentance. If we preach a gospel that is based on relevant culture and entertainment,  then we are depending on our works to appeal to the carnal nature of man in order to draw them to repentance.

Instead of trying to transform the filth of the world into a Christian culture, we need to be transformed from the world into a follower of Christ.

3 John 1:11 (NASB)
11 Beloved, do not imitate what is evil, but what is good. The one who does good is of God; the one who does evil has not seen God.

1 John 2:15-17 (NASB)
15 Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.
17 The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.

Discernment is telling the difference between right and almost right.

1 Cor 5:1-13 An unpopular teaching by today’s Christian standards

Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

When does worship become sin?

I can not describe my feelings about Brad Cooper’s defense of cussing and using foul terms like “bamf” to describe the bride of Christ. I am lost for words at the rebellion, carnality, and pride displayed in this quote from Brad Cooper.

No where is the Scripture sighted in context as a defense. He did reference Luke 6:45 but totally twisted it out of logical context.

Brad Cooper may have changed his view as to what filthy speech means, but God’s view does not change regardless of Brad Cooper’s humanist explanation based upon the shifting sands of “the ends justify the means”.

Let’s look at God’s Word and see what God said about our speech and testimony.

Titus 2:5-8 (New International Version)

5 to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.

6 Similarly, encourage the young men to be self-controlled. 7In everything set them an example by doing what is good. In your teaching show integrity, seriousness 8and soundness of speech that cannot be condemned, so that those who oppose you may be ashamed because they have nothing bad to say about us.

Using bad language like “bamf” to describe the church is not soundness of speech. Those outside of the Christian faith even condemn this type of filth. This term is so vile I could not put it on a public billboard because of profanity laws.

Titus 2:11-15 (New International Version)

11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. 12 It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, 13 while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.

15 These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.

Brad Cooper’s distortion of the Word of God leaves the door open for ungodliness and worldly passions. The cussing he is defending is vile and ungodly which is in clear violation of God’s clear commandments found easily in His Word.

Colossians 3:8 (New International Version)

8 But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.

God clearly meant what He said regardless of how Brad Cooper wants to redefine God’s Word.

I was not required to dig deep into the Bible to refute Brad Cooper’s carnal defense of cussing.

It is clear to me that Brad Cooper is not interested in obeying the Scriptures. His defense and distortions of profanity is vile in itself because it only requires the speakers’ intention regardless if the words spoken are offensive to those who hear it. This is against what the Scriptures teach us as Christians.

I have been trying to get Brad Cooper Student Pastor from NewSpring Church to talk with me about his comments referring to FUSE. Brad Cooper used the acronym BAMF to describe the body of Christ. The acronym is so filthy and vulgar that I refuse to put it on my blog. For those of you interested in this relevant worldly “hip” acronym BAMF you can google it, but beware you will be in for a shock. How can a pastor use such a foul term to describe the bride of Christ?

I have been posting on Brad Cooper’s blog, sending him Twitter messages, etc.. He deleted one of my post and called me a coward. When I presented the facts and offered to meet with him, he ignored my request.

In the Bible it deals with this type of filthy language.

Colossians 3:8 (NIV)
3:8 But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.

I find it alarming that NewSpring has not dealt with this in public. Since Brad Cooper used this term twice, that I know about in public, referring to the body of Christ, then NewSpring should correct this in public and Brad Cooper apologize to our community in public.

This is not an unreasonable request by me. This type of filth should not be used to describe the church especially by a student pastor!

Parents, how would you feel if you son or daughter starting referring to stuff as BAMF? When you ask where did they hear such speech? The answer is,”Brad Cooper from FUSE! He is so cool and relevant to us!”

Join me and e-mail NewSpring Church to demand a public apology from Brad Cooper and NewSpring Church. Contact the local media and report this please. Help me to stand up against this type of abuse and irresponsibility by speaking out peacefully using our freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

Just a reminder of the filth pouring out of this sour spring called NewSpring Church.

Perry Noble: “This Sh_t Is Awesome!”

PERRY NOBLE SAYS YOU’RE A JACKASS

Perry Noble’s defense of Joel Osteen and TD Jakes

The sour fruit of Perry Noble: NewSpring Children’s minister defends his love of filthy rap music!

Confusion_of_TonguesI want to explain why I call the emergent church the Seeker-Sensitive Purpose Driven Church for the Carnal Nature of Mankind.

Seeker-sensitive– This refers to the goal of the emergent church. They are sensitive to the needs of the unchurched. On the surface there is nothing wrong with being “sensitive” to the needs of the lost. We should go out and be Jesus to the world in love and truth. The emergent church takes this way too far in how they cater the church to the lost and trample the Bible’s clear commandments about not loving the world (1 John 2:14-161 John 2:15-17, James 4:3-5). They are so relevant to society that the Word of God is irrelevant. The biblical way of spreading the Gospel is deemed old by them, therefore they think God needs their works to help spread His Word.

Purpose Driven–  We hear so much about vision from these leaders. Vision is what drives these people as they project their goals for the church. This is the burning desire that makes this movement tick. I’m not saying that this aspect is bad; on the contrary, I view it as very good. We all need to cast vision; however, that vision must be grounded in the Word of God.

Carnal Nature of Mankind– This refers to our sin nature, our love of the world, our love of evil, our natural rebellion against God, and how we, as humans, want to be a god. The Seeker-Sensitive Purpose Driven Church for the Carnal Nature of Mankind transforms the church into a circus of bait-and-switch, creating an atmosphere of deception in order to appeal to the lost. The leaders of this movement do not believe the Gospel is enough to reach the lost anymore. They believe that we must cater to the world by using anything the world deems popular to attract people into the church where they can meet Jesus. They rely upon themselves to be the vessel to lead people to the church rather than simply following the Bible’s example of going out witnessing the good news of Christ and making disciples of new believers (Matthew 28:18-20). By appealing to the carnal nature of mankind, these seeker-sensitive relevant pastors omit the offensiveness the Gospel is to the world (Matthew 10:32-36) by replacing it with stage shows, gimmicks, contests, sex talk, marriage counseling, pep talks, financial planning, etc… using anything to lure people into the church. They substitute the power of the Holy Spirit to convict and draw mankind unto Himself with a new relevant power of human reason. They accomplish this goal by creating and using very well thought out programs, relevant sermon series, professional sounding bands, and simply urging people to say “Jesus” as the new way to win souls to Christ (2 Timothy 4:2-4).

The Gospel is offensive to our carnal nature because it tells us that we are unable to redeem ourselves and that we must be saved by the one method that God established for us. The Gospel shows man as depraved and incapable without God’s conviction even to understand that he is lost  (1 Corinthians 2:13-15). The natural man cannot seek God (Romans 3:10-12). These two facts alone are very offensive to the unchurched because it stats that we as humans:

  1. We are sinful (evil) by nature, therefore no one is good and worthy of Heaven.
  2. We cannot save ourselves by good works, simply saying, “Jesus” (Matthew 7:21-23), or by volunteering.
  3. It is the Holy Spirit that draws us to Himself and not mankind that comes to God by our own merits.

The emergent church appeals to the carnal nature of mankind by ignoring the Bible’s clear commandments about the world (Romans 12:1-3, Galatians 6:13-15, Ephesians 2:1-3, Colossians 2:6-9, Titus 2:11-13, James 4:3-5, Ephesians 5:4). It is appealing because it allows mankind to make his own rules thus telling God what is good enough for God. In other words, they allow man to become as a god by changing what God said in order to suit mankind’s needs and wants. The Seeker-Sensitive Purpose Driven Church for the Carnal Nature of Mankind allows mankind to remain in the pit of the world just because the name of Jesus is proclaimed. As long as people profess the name of Jesus, and the church is growing, it is evidence to the Seeker-Sensitive Purpose Driven Church for the Carnal Nature of Mankind that God must be blessing them because of their new methods. This new twist on the old sinful nature of mankind is just as appealing today as it was thousands of years ago. The only things that have changed is the terminology and technology.

An age old sin problem

Universal Language, Babel, Confusion

1 Now the whole earth 1used the same language and 2the same words.

2   It came about as they journeyed east, that they found a plain in the land aof Shinar and 1settled there.

3   They said to one another, “Come, let us make bricks and burn them thoroughly.” And they used brick for stone, and they used atar for mortar.

4   They said, “Come, let us build for ourselves a city, and a tower whose top awill reach into heaven, and let us make for ourselves ba name, otherwise we cwill be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.”

5   aThe Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built.

6   The Lord said, “Behold, they are one people, and they all have 1athe same language. And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be 2impossible for them.

7   “Come, alet Us go down and there bconfuse their 1language, so that they will not understand one another’s 1speech.”

8   So the Lord ascattered them abroad from there over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped building the city.

9   Therefore its name was called 1aBabel, because there the Lord confused the 2language of the whole earth; and from there the Lord scattered them abroad over the face of the whole earth. [1]

When I was pondering writing this blog, the Tower of Babel came to mind when I thought about the foundation of the Seeker-Sensitive Purpose Driven Church for the Carnal Nature of Mankind. I see a striking resemblance in these two man-made accomplishments.

Attitude– The old Satanic lie (Genesis 3:1-5) of “we can be like God” is seen in both the Tower of Babel and the Seeker-Sensitive Purpose Driven Church for the Carnal Nature of Mankind. The builders of the Tower of Babel were working to reach Heaven by their own rules. They had vision, and they were united in their goal to reach Heaven. They followed their leader’s vision to its end without question. Does this sound familiar?

Sin– The people building this city did wondrous works that were appealing to the people. This was from the desire of man to reach God by man’s methods vs. God’s way to Him. The builders sought to reach God by their rules and by their works. They expected God to accept them because of their works. If they did not expect God to accept them, then why did they build this tower to Heaven?

We will- In spite of what God said in His Word, the leaders of the Seeker-Sensitive Purpose Driven Church for the Carnal Nature of Mankind insist that because of their leadership lives are being changed. The attitude of “we will lead, lives are being changed because of our work, and people are coming to Christ” overrides God’s commandments.  The problem here is the “we” attitude. These leaders ignore God when God’s Word condemns their actions but uplift God’s Word when it suits their own visions. This reminds me of “They said, “Come, let us build for ourselves a city, and a tower whose top will reach into heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name, otherwise we will be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.” The leaders of the emergent church say,” Come, let us build a church that is relevant, a church that will use culture to lead people to Jesus, we shall make a name for ourselves by reaching out to the world using everything popular, otherwise the people will never know Jesus because of all the religious church people who do nothing because they are set in the old ways.

All the good works the emergent church does, all the thousands of numbers of confessions stating “Jesus,” all the grand buildings, and all the volunteers do not pardon these churches from the condemnation God’s Word puts upon them and their love of the world. God clearly told us not to love the world and not to mix light with darkness (Philippians 2:14-16). The outcome of the emergent church is confusion just like what happened at the Tower of Babel. God’s Word is there in front of them, but they choose to ignore it in favor of man’s wisdom.


1Lit was one lip

2Or few or one set of words

aGen 10:10; 14:1; Dan 1:2

1Lit dwelt

aGen 14:10

aDeut 1:28; 9:1; Ps 107:26

bGen 6:4; 2 Sam 8:13

cDeut 4:27

aGen 18:21; Ex 3:8; 19:11, 18, 20

1Lit one lip

aGen 11:1

2Lit withheld from

aGen 1:26

bGen 42:23; Ex 4:11; Deut 28:49; Is 33:19; Jer 5:15

1Lit lip

aGen 11:4; Ps 92:9; Luke 1:51

1Or Babylon; cf Heb balal, confuse

aGen 10:10

2Lit lip

[1]New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (Ge 11:1-9). LaHabra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.

censor

#4 – The “Keep Everyone Happy” Leader.
You will NEVER please everyone in your church…

EVER!

AND…the thing I’ve learned is that when people are upset they are usually the loudest…which makes them seem like the majority.

One of the problems that exist today in church world is that very few people are willing to LEAD…to have convictions and stand up for them…no matter who gets pissed off. Perry Noble (source)

BTW…why is it that many of the reformed guys are complete @$$holes?  Did God REALLY call them to pick apart verb tenses and voice intonations of speakers who don’t say things exactly right or don’t use a particular word order? Perry Noble (source)

I am amazed at how little value is placed upon the Word of God by many people in the seeker-sensitive emergent church movement. One glaring example of this is seen in their speech and how they openly use filthy language without any regard to the Bible’s condemnation of filthy speech. In the ever-shifting sands of relevance and the need to appeal to the world, emergent church business CEOs like Perry Noble of NewSpring Church place the Bible on the back burner in order to reach out and be relevant to the unchurched. Not only do men like Perry Noble transform the church from a place of teaching the whole council of God into an entertainment stage show, but they also change the meaning of what is considered Christian living by their antics and gimmicks. In order to defend their open rebellion and sin, they call people like me “Pharisee” and “religious” because we strive to obey God’s clear commandments found in the Bible concerning our walk in this world as children of the King.

James 1:19-27

19 1This ayou know, bmy beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, cslow to speak and dslow to anger;

20   for athe anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God.

21   Therefore, aputting aside all filthiness and all 1that remains of wickedness, in 2humility receive bthe word implanted, which is able to save your souls.

22   aBut prove yourselves doers of the word, and not merely hearers who delude themselves.

23   For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his 1natural face ain a mirror;

24   for once he has looked at himself and gone away, 1he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was.

25   But one who looks intently at the perfect law, athe law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer but 1an effectual doer, this man will be bblessed in 2what he does.

26 If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not 1abridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless.

27   Pure and undefiled religion ain the sight of our God and Father is this: to bvisit corphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained 1by dthe world.

The Scriptures are very clear in passages like James 1:19-27. God knows we are not perfect, but this does not pardon us to sin all because we are not the model of perfection. Our walk with Christ should be close to Him, ever striving to be more like Him. Jesus wants us to be holy, humble, and an example to those who do not know Jesus. Jesus wants children who obey Him. We should not use Him, Jesus, as an excuse to sin all because we are not perfect.

I would think that not speaking filth from the pulpit stage, in blogs, and in our conversations would be a very simple command to follow and understand. Yet again, I am amazed by many in the Seeker-sensitive Purpose Driven Church for the Carnal Nature of Mankind who openly scoff at the Scriptures concerning filthy speech. If they cannot get this simple interpretation correct, then how can they understand the deeper teachings of the Scriptures? This is very basic Christian teachings that even small children can understand but Pastors Perry Noble and Brad Cooper struggle with.

With God the end does not justify the means. If God was not concerned with our speech, then why did He even bother to tell us about our sinful nature and our tongue? Repentance from sin is remorse when we sin. Rebellion is continuing in sin with no remorse.


1Or Know this

a1 John 2:21

bActs 1:15; James 1:2, 16; 2:1, 5, 14; 3:1, 10; 4:11; 5:12, 19

cProv 10:19; 17:27

dProv 16:32; Eccl 7:9

aMatt 5:22; Eph 4:26

aEph 4:22; 1 Pet 2:1

1Lit abundance of malice

2Or gentleness

bEph 1:13; 1 Pet 1:22f

aMatt 7:24–27; Luke 6:46–49; Rom 2:13; James 1:22–25; 2:14–20

1Lit the face of his birth; or nature

a1 Cor 13:12

1Lit and he

aJohn 8:32; Rom 8:2; Gal 2:4; 6:2; James 2:12; 1 Pet 2:16

1Lit a doer of a work

bJohn 13:17

2Lit his doing

1Or control

aPs 39:1; 141:3; James 3:2–12

aRom 2:13; Gal 3:11

bMatt 25:36

cDeut 14:29; Job 31:16, 17, 21; Ps 146:9; Is 1:17, 23

1Lit from

dMatt 12:32; Eph 2:2; Titus 2:12; James 4:4; 2 Pet 1:4; 2:20; 1 John 2:15–17

[1]New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (Jas 1:19-27). LaHabra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.