Posts Tagged ‘apostasy’

A friend who is a member of a ELCA Lutheran Church(might I add this church will soon to leave the ELCA) shared this link with me tonight. This takes feminism and liberalism to a new high of apostasy! This is the bastard child of mixing Christianity with Progressive Marxism. The question I ask is why even bother using the name of Christ? Why not just create a new religion and be done with it?

Here is a link if you want to dig deep into heresy: Ebenezer/herchurch Lutheran, San Francisco – ELCA

I am using this information as defined under the Fair Use section of US copyright law.


Ever wonder what gives seeker-sensitive pastors nightmares? The answer is found in:

Acts 17:11 (NIV)

11 Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.

This will keep even the most “hip and cool” life coach CEO pastor awake at night! Yes, Acts 17:11 will keep your ever so eager to fleece and beat the sheep pastor up at night. The last thing these relevant life coaches want is for someone to threaten their “divine” vision from God by actually checking God’s Word to see if that “vision”  is true. A Berean is far worse than Freddy Krueger to these guys!

2 Timothy 4:2-4 (NIV)

2 Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction. 3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

All I can do is groan as I listen to the mess called a sermon.

Where are we today as the Christian church? Are we closer to God today more than 100 years ago? A better question is are we closer to God today than yesterday?

I find myself asking these questions more and more as I observe Christianity today. With the current trend of seeker-sensitive’ism mixed with the mysticism of “signs and wonders“, it’s easy to see how the Christian church is changing quickly. With this in mind, we have witnessed many pastors emerge as prophets who claim to receive special guidance(visions) from God. This trend is not solely exclusive to the charismatic movement today. It’s almost like watching the church turn into the Roman Catholic Church(a charismatic non-formal version) except every church has a pope. This new “pope” commonly declares ex cathedra(his divine vision for his church) to the sheep vs. how the Pope of Rome declares ex cathedra on extremely rare occasions generally upholding Catholic dogma. This mystical transformation of the office of pastor is spearheading the direction of Christianity today.

Are we witnessing another reformation? Just what is happening to the American Christianity?

The way I see it, all this started many years ago when the people of God compromised on seemingly small things in order to avoid conflicts. Instead of speaking out against a divorced man becoming a deacon(1 Timothy 3:8-13), they remained silent and/or praised the open mindedness of the church. Little things like a divorced man becoming a deacon or pastor started the fire that we see ablaze today within our Christian faith. This new fire is not the fire of the Holy Spirit, but the spirit of anti-Christ blazing through the church. If we do not draw the line and stand firm now, what will the church look like in 5, 10,20 or 100 years?

It’s time to do the hard work and stand for sound doctrine. It’s time to stand for sound living and to enforce the Bible’s requirements for deacons, pastors, and the leadership. I am not talking about setting up a legalistic system to combat this trend; in fact legalism is just as bad as what I am complaining about in this blog.

One major complication we face is the nature of the pastor has changed right before our eyes. Today, many pastors have placed themselves above the authority of the church. They set themselves up as the untouchable authority in which the title of pastor can never be revoked. 1 Timothy 3:1-7 is no longer the basis for the qualifications of the pastor. For example: Pastor “X” gets divorced. Pastor “X” takes time off but does not resign because he has spend many years of his life preparing to be pastor. I do not care if pastor “X” spend over $40k and 6 years to get his degree in theology, if this man gets divorced and/or cannot manage his home, we: the church, are told to fire him if he will not step down. The problem we face is the office of pastor has become a job, therefore many feel they are obligated to earn money because they spent money to get a college education(1 Timothy 6:3-10). Instead of removing the title of pastor and being there to help him with his crisis, many just ignore the Bible. Instead of redirecting his abilities to another work within the church, they compromise the Bible. Sometimes groups like the SBC will simply move a untrustworthy pastor from one church to another without ever addressing the problem. I fear instead of putting the emphasis on God’s requirements for the pastor, the church only looks at a formal educations and resume. While schooling may help, it is not required to be pastor.

What about the un-churched? Will all this fighting over doctrine run them away?

These types of hard stands will split churches and cause problems(Matthew 10:33-38). Many will say this hurts spreading the Gospel because lost people will see all the infighting. I say that by doing nothing, we are hurting those on the outside far more because this new direction of Christianity is virtually no different than the world these lost people live in(1 Thessalonians 5:21-23). The only difference is  the labels “Jesus” ” volunteering”  and “worshipping God” is applied to everything under the sun.

The church has made the creation’s intentions far more important than the Creator’s rules. The authority of the Word is slowly falling behind the vision of the pastor. If we allow the world to mandate our actions in the church and we depend of the vision of a pastor, then why even bother using the Bible? Why not just follow the pastor and conform to the needs of the un-churched?

Again I ask, where is Christianity headed? Are we going to draw closer to God or draw closer to mankind’s concept of god? Are we going to fight the hard fight(2 Timothy 2:14-16; Acts 17:11-13) or sit in silent agreement as we watch Christianity transform into a bride that Christ will not only reject(Revelation 3:15-17), but possibly a bride whom He has never known(Matthew 7:21-23)?

See also:

Discernment is telling the difference between right and almost right

Straddling the fence

The blunt truth about the gospel and the false god of purpose

Do not judge – Matthew 7:5 – the forgotten passage

The Seeker-Sensitive Purpose Driven Church for the Carnal Nature of Mankind

Ever want to know what Mormons truly believe? 4MORMONORG has a ton of info concerning this cult.


  • ADAM-GOD DOCTRINE: Brigham Young proclaimed that Adam conceived Jesus and that Adam “is our Father our God, and the only God with whom we have to do.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 50, 51)  This doctrine has officially been denounced by the modern LDS Church.
  • JESUS HAD MANY WIVES: LDS Apostles Orson Hyde, Orson Pratt and Jedediah M. Grant claimed that Jesus was a “Polygamist” who married several women. (The Seer, p. 172; Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 346; vol. 4, p. 259)  The LDS Church of today seeks to distance itself from the polygamist views of early Mormon leaders and thus does not adhere to this view today.
  • THE FATHER PROCREATED JESUS’ HUMAN BODY: LDS authorities and church manuals have taught that Jesus is the “literal” Son of God whose fleshly body was physically “conceived” and “begotten” by Heavenly Father and Mary in the same way that children are begotten. (Mormon Doctrine, p. 742; Family Home Evening, 1972, pp. 125-126)  Although LDS leaders today tend to de-emphasize this belief, it has never been denounced officially by the LDS Church.
  • BLOOD ATONEMENT: The Prophet Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, Joseph Fielding Smith and LDS Apostle Bruce R. McConkie all claimed that there are “certain sins” which the blood of Christ cannot cover and that one must have his “own blood shed” to atone for those sins. (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, pp. 134-135, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, pp. 53-54, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 92-93) This doctrine, known as the “blood atonement” doctrine, is not emphasized today, but it has never been denounced by the LDS Church.
  • GARDEN OF EDEN IN MISSOURI: Joseph Smith taught Jackson County is where the Garden of Eden was located and that when Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden, they moved to Caldwell County and Daviess County of Far West, Missouri. LDS believe Far West is the location where Cain killed Abel.  The “Adam-ondi-Ahman” valley in Daviess County is thought to be the location where Adam will visit prior to the second coming of Christ.  While this view is still held by LDS, it has no support with the Biblical text. Since Genesis 2:10-14 mentions the Tigris and Euphrates rivers flowing from the Garden of Eden, many speculate that if these rivers are in the same location as they were before the flood, the Garden of Eden was located somewhere in the Middle East, possibly in Iraq.
  • CREATION NOT OUT OF NOTHING: Mormons believe that God did not create the world “ex nihilo” (out of nothing), but merely organized matter already in existence.  This view is not unique to Mormonism, for it grew out of second and third century Greek Gnosticism and Aristotelian and the Platonic views of the world.  Early Church Fathers such as Irenaeus and Tertullian argued strongly for the Christian belief that God created the world out of nothing and this has been the historic Christian position for centuries.  While the Bible does not specifically state that God created all things “out of nothing,” it is significant that Scripture uses language that leads to this view.  At Hebrews 11:3 and Romans 4:17 we see that God created the visible world out of the invisible, and that He “calls into being that which does not exist.” 1. (source)

Please visit WHO ARE MORMONS? – Their History, Beliefs and Practices for a good overview of the Mormon faith.

At any rate, cost what it may, to separate ourselves from those who separate themselves from the truth of God is not alone our liberty, but our duty. –C.H. Spurgeon

I found this today. I thought I would share it with my readers:

In recent weeks there has been an upsurge of discussion in regard to the Church Growth, Seeker and Emergent Church movements. Each of these movements, are to varying degrees, contra-biblical. If there is one common denominator in each it is the willful disregard for the biblical mandate to separate and come out from among apostate religions.

2 Corinthians 6:14-17

King James Version (KJV)

 14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

Among the Growth/Seeker/Emergent movements (such as Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven movement) it seems as if there is almost no mainline denomination, religion or organization to far removed from biblical Christianity to warrant rebuke and separation. The evidence shows that these movements prefer unity with apostasy at the expense of fidelity to God’s mandated course of action found in His Word.

“It has been said of Charles Haddon Spurgeon (1834-1892) that he was the greatest preacher since the Apostle Paul. Spurgeon began preaching at the age of 16. At 25 he built London’s famous Metropolitan Tabernacle, seating around 5,000. It was never large enough for the crowds he attracted to hear him preach. Wherever he went in the United Kingdom thousands came to hear from him. The London newspapers reprinted his Sunday sermons, which were read by thousands. Spurgeon published thousands of devotionals, commentaries, poems, tracts, sermons and songs.” (In Defense of the Gospel, p. 55.)

In the Fundamentalist Distinctives thread at Sharper iron I have posted two excerpts from Spurgeon’s article, The Drift of the Times, published in 1888. I think it is befitting to post the article here, in its entirety.

The thrust and force of Spurgeon’s article is as timely today as it was nearly 120 years ago. Because of the insidious spread and attraction of the Growth, Seeker & Emergent movements The Drift of the Times may be more needed and applicable now than when it was originally published.

The Drift of the Times
Sound the Alarm!

Separation Not Alone Our Privilege But Our Duty

As soon as I saw, or thought I saw, that error had become firmly established, I did not deliberate but quitted the body at once. Since then my counsel has been, “Come ye out from among them.” If I have rejoiced in the loyalty to Christ’s truth which has been shown in other courses of action, yet I have felt that no protest could be equal to that of distinct separation from known evil.

The Brethren in the Middle

The brethren in the middle are the source of this clinging together of discordant elements. These who are for peace at any price, who persuade themselves that there is very little wrong, who care chiefly to maintain existing institutions, these are the good people who induce the weary combatants to repeat the futile attempt at a coalition which, in the nature of things, must break down. If both sides could be unfaithful to conscience, or if the glorious gospel could be thrust altogether out of the question, there might be a league of amity established; but as neither of these things can be, there would seem to be no reason for persevering in the attempt to maintain a confederacy for which there is no justification in fact and from which there can be no worthy result, seeing it does not embody a living truth. A desire for unity is commendable. Blessed are they who can promote it and preserve it! But there are other matters to be considered as well as unity, and sometimes these may even demand the first place.

Separation A Duty

Numbers of good brethren in different ways remain in fellowship with those who are undermining the Gospel; and they talk of their conduct as though it were a loving course of action which the Lord will approve of in the day of His appearing. We cannot understand them. The bounden duty of a true believer towards men who profess to be Christians and yet . . . reject the fundamentals of the Gospel is to come out from among them. . . . Complicity with error will take from the best of men the power to enter any successful protest against it. If any body of believers had errorists among them but were resolute to deal with them in the name of the Lord, all might come right; but confederacies founded upon the principle that all may enter, whatever views they hold, are based upon disloyalty to the truth of God. If truth is optional, error is justifiable.

The Army of Intermediates Should Cease Being Politic

There are now two parties in the religious world, and a great mixed multitude who from various causes decline to be ranked with either of them. In this army of intermediates are many who have no right to be there; but we spare them. The day will come, however, when they will have to reckon with their consciences. When the light is taken out of its place, they may too mourn that they were not willing to trim the lamp nor even to notice that the flame grew dim.

Our present sorrowful protest is not a matter of this man or that, this error or that, but of principle. There is either something essential to a true faith–some truth which is to be believed–or else everything is left to each man’s taste. We believe in the first of these opinions, and hence cannot dream of religious associations with those who might on the second theory be acceptable. Those who are of our mind should, at all costs, act upon it.

Separation, The Only Complete Protest

At any rate, cost what it may, to separate ourselves from those who separate themselves from the truth of God is not alone our liberty but our duty. I have raised my protest in the only complete way by coming forth, and I shall be content to abide alone until the day when the Lord shall judge the secrets of all hearts; but it will not seem to me a strange thing if others are found faithful and if others judge that for them also there is no path but that which is painfully apart from the beaten track.(source)

Brickcity Community Church’s pastor thinks this is an appropriate way to market their church.(source)

One thing I can say is this hireling in being honest with the following ad:

This transformation is one that has turned the bride of Christ into a filthy whore that Christ will not accept but judge!

1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 (NASB)
21 But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good;
22 abstain from every form of evil.